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Beers with Talos Ep. #97: Getting to better security outcomes (feat. Wendy Nather)

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Thursday, December 10, 2020 10:59

Beers with Talos (BWT) Podcast episode No. 97 is now available. Download this episode and
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By Mitch Neff.

Recorded Nov. 24, 2020 – On this episode, Mitch and Matt are joined by Wendy Nather to discuss the newly released Cisco Security Outcomes Study. The results and findings of the research are interesting and somewhat surprising. As often happens with most good research, we end up asking more questions — in this case, geared toward the nature of the relationships found in the data. Special thanks to Wendy for coming on and joining us. As usual, her insight is stellar and she is much more entertaining than the rest of us.

The timeline:

  • 01:00 — Roundtable
  • 03:00 — Wendy Nather breaks down the data science of the Security Outcomes Study
  • 09:00 — Matt breaks down what adds zero value to success
  • 13:00 — Behaviors of security success: cause, effect, and correlation
  • 21:30 — Security success contributors in NIST terms
  • 25:40 — You heard her… but she’s right, you know.
  • 31:00 — ADHD sparkle into closing shots, parting thoughts

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Featuring: Matt Olney (@kpyke)
Hosted by Mitch Neff (@MitchNeff)Special guest: Wendy Nather (@WendyNather)

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