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Tell HN: OpenAI brings back 5 hour limit for plus and business standard users
OpenAI reinstated a 5-hour usage limit for Plus and Business Standard subscribers, sparking Hacker News debate about subsidized inference pricing and subscription value.
A Hacker News discussion reports that OpenAI has brought back a 5-hour usage limit for Plus and Business Standard users. Commenters debated whether cheap tokens are a subsidized customer acquisition strategy, whether AI companies have sustainable margins on inference, and how switching costs between providers affect dependency. The thread reflects community sentiment on pricing and usage caps rather than an official policy announcement.
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[AINews] Andrew Ng gets into AI Engineering
Andrew Ng relaunches DeepLearning.AI around AI Engineering, defining four core skills from an analysis of 10,000+ job postings and expert interviews.
Andrew Ng, cofounder of Google Brain and Coursera, relaunched DeepLearning.AI with a focus on AI Engineering, basing the curriculum direction on an analysis of over 10,000 job postings plus interviews and surveys. He identifies four key skills: building and deploying AI applications, software engineering fundamentals, effective use of coding agents, and shaping the build with product sense. The Latent Space AI News issue also recaps agent ecosystem developments, including NVIDIA's 'Skill Lift' evaluation proposal showing skill scan scores correlate only weakly (Spearman rho = 0.14) with judged quality, and Konwinski's open-source persistent-agent 'microharness' Headlong, which achieved an unattended self-debugging repair in 48 minutes.
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Lovable CTO: The Future of SaaS Is Apps That Agents Can Use
Lovable pivots from app building to exposing app functions as agent-callable capabilities via hosted MCP servers, raising a $400M Series C at a $13.3B valuation.
Lovable CTO Fabian Hedin outlined a strategy of turning published applications into agent-accessible capabilities by exposing selected functions as tools through a hosted MCP server, usable from ChatGPT, Claude, and other MCP-compatible clients. The company reports surpassing a $500M annualized revenue run rate, more than 60 million projects created, over 900 million monthly visits to Lovable-built apps, and usage by employees at nearly two-thirds of the Fortune 500. Menlo Ventures led a $400M Series C this month alongside EQT's Scaleup Europe Fund, valuing the company at $13.3 billion. Lovable evolved from the open-source GPT Engineer tool, became a commercial product in November 2024, and now competes with platforms like Vercel in AI-generated software hosting.
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