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U.S. Agencies Accuse China AI Firms of Distilling Claude, GPT, Gemini, and Grok

NSA, CISA and FBI accuse Chinese AI firms including DeepSeek of industrial-scale distillation of Claude, GPT, Gemini and Grok since late 2024.

A joint bulletin from the NSA, CISA and FBI accuses China-based AI firms including DeepSeek, Moonshot AI, Alibaba, MiniMax, StepFun and Z.AI of systematic, industrial-scale distillation of U.S. frontier models. The agencies say billions of tokens were extracted from Claude, GPT, Gemini and Grok variants since at least late 2024 through APIs, cloud relays, obfuscated accounts and gray-market proxies, likely with Chinese government backing. Firms allegedly shared premium subscriptions across developer teams and used chain-of-thought extraction and automated failover to evade blocks. Mitigations include subtly altering responses to suspected distillers and correlating activity across providers, clouds and aggregators.

The Hacker News · 7d agoAI policy

DeepSeek, Alibaba and Chinese AI Firms Extract Billions of Tokens From U.S. AI Models

NSA, CISA and FBI advisory AA26-251A accuses DeepSeek, Alibaba and four other Chinese AI firms of industrial-scale distillation of US frontier models.

Joint advisory AA26-251A from NSA, CISA and FBI accuses DeepSeek, Alibaba, Moonshot AI, MiniMax, StepFun and Z.AI of extracting billions of tokens from Claude, GPT, Gemini and Grok variants since at least late 2024, likely with Chinese government awareness. Campaigns allegedly used API proxy 'transfer stations', account pools, metadata sanitization and prompt injection to harvest reasoning, coding, agentic and reinforcement-learning capabilities, with techniques mapped to MITRE ATLAS. DeepSeek's R1 and V3 and Alibaba's Qwen families reportedly trained on harvested outputs, and DeepSeek's $5.6 million training-cost claim is disputed as excluding distilled data value. Agencies urge anomaly monitoring, output alteration for suspected extractors, and intelligence sharing across vendors, clouds and aggregators.

GBHackers · 7d agoAI safety & security in the wild1· 1 read

US Agencies Warn China Is Systematically Extracting Frontier AI Capabilities

NSA, CISA and FBI warn Chinese AI firms including DeepSeek and Moonshot systematically extracted billions of tokens from US frontier models since late 2024.

The NSA, CISA, and FBI report that China-based AI companies including DeepSeek, Moonshot AI, Alibaba, MiniMax, StepFun, and Z.AI extracted billions of tokens from US frontier models such as Claude, GPT-4/GPT-5, Gemini, and Grok 4 since late 2024. The distillation trained DeepSeek's R1 and V3 and Moonshot's Kimi-K2/K3 models, and the agencies mapped the tactics to MITRE ATLAS while noting additional novel techniques like subscription exploitation and request metadata sanitization. They describe the activity as a strategic economic threat to US technological leadership and recommend behavioral detection, differential privacy, and targeted cost-imposing responses.

SecurityWeekupdated · 6d agofirst · 6d agoAI safety & security in the wild 5 sources1

CISA Warns Chinese AI Firms Extract Billions of Tokens From Claude, GPT, Gemini and Grok

CISA, NSA and FBI advisory says six Chinese AI firms extracted billions of tokens from Claude, GPT, Gemini and Grok via API proxies since late 2024.

A joint advisory from CISA, NSA and FBI alleges China-based AI companies including DeepSeek, Moonshot AI, Alibaba, MiniMax, StepFun and Z.AI harvested billions of tokens across millions of exchanges from Claude, GPT, Gemini and Grok variants since late 2024. Operators allegedly used API proxy 'transfer stations', account pools, bulk premium subscriptions and prompt injection or jailbreak-style requests to force models to reveal chain-of-thought reasoning. DeepSeek's R1 and V3 and Moonshot's Kimi-K2 and Kimi-K3 models reportedly benefited from the extracted data. CISA urged providers to add identity checks, monitor subscription-to-usage ratios, rate limit, and share infrastructure signals with cloud platforms.

Cyber Security News · 7d agoAI safety & security in the wild

Feds accuse China of ‘systematic’ distillation of U.S. AI models

NSA, CISA, and FBI jointly accuse Chinese AI firms including DeepSeek and Moonshot AI of industrial-scale distillation of US frontier models.

A joint advisory from the NSA, CISA, and FBI alleges China-based AI companies including DeepSeek, Moonshot AI, Alibaba, MiniMax, StepFun, and Z.AI have systematically extracted capabilities from US frontier models since at least late 2024. The companies allegedly spent billions of tokens across millions of requests against Claude, ChatGPT, Gemini, and Grok, routing traffic through multiple accounts, platforms, proxies, and third-party aggregators to evade detection. Moonshot AI allegedly distilled 18 US models, including Anthropic's most advanced model, to train its Kimi-K2 and Kimi K3 models.

CyberScoop · 7d agoAI policy