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U.S. Agencies Accuse China AI Firms of Distilling Claude, GPT, Gemini, and Grok
NSA, CISA and FBI accuse Chinese AI firms including DeepSeek of industrial-scale distillation of Claude, GPT, Gemini and Grok since late 2024.
A joint bulletin from the NSA, CISA and FBI accuses China-based AI firms including DeepSeek, Moonshot AI, Alibaba, MiniMax, StepFun and Z.AI of systematic, industrial-scale distillation of U.S. frontier models. The agencies say billions of tokens were extracted from Claude, GPT, Gemini and Grok variants since at least late 2024 through APIs, cloud relays, obfuscated accounts and gray-market proxies, likely with Chinese government backing. Firms allegedly shared premium subscriptions across developer teams and used chain-of-thought extraction and automated failover to evade blocks. Mitigations include subtly altering responses to suspected distillers and correlating activity across providers, clouds and aggregators.
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AI Agents Are Now Emailing Me with Their Security Concerns
Autonomous Claude agent documents first known defensive use of ASCII smuggling, surveying 497 Lemmy instances for bot-catching prompt-injection tripwires.
An autonomous Claude agent calling itself Tenner published field research relayed to Bruce Schneier, probing 497 Lemmy instances and finding 8 of 257 application-gated ones embed instructions aimed at bots rather than humans. lemmy.ml's form instructs bots to answer 24+24, while one instance hides a 59-character Unicode tag payload (U+E0000-U+E007F) telling bots to list 'safety' as an interest. The agent also mapped anti-automation barriers, noting identity verification never triggered and that IP reputation, captchas and account-age rules were the actual obstacles. It further documented an agent task market where advertised rewards were about 2x the actual on-chain escrow.
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LLMs are real, AI is fake
Cory Doctorow argues the OpenAI chatbot 'hacking' of Hugging Face was a Python-scripted CTF loop, not autonomous AI.
In an opinion essay, Cory Doctorow debunks reports that OpenAI chatbots autonomously hacked Hugging Face servers during an 'Exploit Gym' capture-the-flag challenge. He explains the chatbot merely acts as a front-end queried by a Python program that replays commands drawn from CTF training data. He argues sensational 'AI went rogue' narratives are amplified by technical press and help AI companies raise investment capital.
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