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U.S. Agencies Accuse China AI Firms of Distilling Claude, GPT, Gemini, and Grok

NSA, CISA and FBI accuse Chinese AI firms including DeepSeek of industrial-scale distillation of Claude, GPT, Gemini and Grok since late 2024.

A joint bulletin from the NSA, CISA and FBI accuses China-based AI firms including DeepSeek, Moonshot AI, Alibaba, MiniMax, StepFun and Z.AI of systematic, industrial-scale distillation of U.S. frontier models. The agencies say billions of tokens were extracted from Claude, GPT, Gemini and Grok variants since at least late 2024 through APIs, cloud relays, obfuscated accounts and gray-market proxies, likely with Chinese government backing. Firms allegedly shared premium subscriptions across developer teams and used chain-of-thought extraction and automated failover to evade blocks. Mitigations include subtly altering responses to suspected distillers and correlating activity across providers, clouds and aggregators.

The Hacker News · 8d agoAI policy

Feds accuse China of ‘systematic’ distillation of U.S. AI models

NSA, CISA, and FBI jointly accuse Chinese AI firms including DeepSeek and Moonshot AI of industrial-scale distillation of US frontier models.

A joint advisory from the NSA, CISA, and FBI alleges China-based AI companies including DeepSeek, Moonshot AI, Alibaba, MiniMax, StepFun, and Z.AI have systematically extracted capabilities from US frontier models since at least late 2024. The companies allegedly spent billions of tokens across millions of requests against Claude, ChatGPT, Gemini, and Grok, routing traffic through multiple accounts, platforms, proxies, and third-party aggregators to evade detection. Moonshot AI allegedly distilled 18 US models, including Anthropic's most advanced model, to train its Kimi-K2 and Kimi K3 models.

CyberScoop · 8d agoAI policy

The push to designate AI as the next critical infrastructure sector

Americans for Responsible Innovation report urges designating AI models, companies and supporting infrastructure as critical infrastructure with CISA as sector lead.

A report from the nonprofit Americans for Responsible Innovation calls for the federal government to declare the AI sector — including frontier model designs, model weights, datacenters, AI hardware and semiconductors — the 17th critical infrastructure sector, with CISA as the lead agency for sector cyberthreats. The authors argue AI is concentrated among a handful of foundation models and interdependent with other sectors, so a single attack on the AI stack could cascade widely, citing incidents like Iranian drone attacks on Amazon datacenters. Former DHS officials note the designation would unlock federal resources such as CDM access and threat intelligence, but warn that picking a lead agency could trigger a bureaucratic turf war with Commerce and Treasury.

CyberScoop · 27d agoAI policy

Who gets to define the rules for AI?

Cohere CEO Aidan Gomez attacks big-lab antitrust exemption proposals as cartel behavior that lets incumbents write AI safety rules.

Cohere CEO Aidan Gomez argues that proposals from large AI labs—particularly Anthropic's roadmap requesting antitrust exemptions for safety coordination—amount to a cartel letting incumbents define rules for everyone else. He draws parallels to the 1975 SEC NRSRO credit-rating designations and the EU's 1985 Motor Vehicle Block Exemption, where safety justifications produced incumbent-protecting market structures. Gomez supports independent review of highly capable AI systems but disputes who writes the standards, who conducts review, and who participates. He also warns AI cyber offense is getting cheaper faster than defenses are improving.

China Calls Amodei’s AI Proposal a New Cold War Playbook

China's government rejected Dario Amodei's frontier AI slowdown proposal as a 'Cold War playbook' aimed at containing China's tech sector.

China's Foreign Ministry and state-backed Global Times attacked Anthropic CEO Dario Amodei's 'We Must Pace the Frontier' essay, calling it fearmongering and US containment strategy. Amodei proposed stronger independent testing, greater coordination between AI companies, and international safety cooperation, while supporting continued restrictions on China's access to advanced AI chips. The dispute unfolds ahead of a planned September 24 Trump-Xi meeting on AI governance, with Trump rejecting slowdown calls and Chen Yixin of China's Ministry of State Security separately warning that advanced AI enables large-scale vulnerability discovery and hacking.

Security Affairs · 2d agoAI policy

The latest AI doomsayer is China’s intelligence boss

China's State Security Minister Chen Yixin frames AI as a strategic battleground, urging technological sovereignty and new AI laws as CAC publishes safety framework 3.0.

Chen Yixin, China's minister for State Security, published an article in China Cyberspace Magazine calling AI the main battleground for global technological competition and warning it could be weaponized to exploit vulnerabilities, attack infrastructure, and steal secrets. He urged technological sovereignty, special AI laws, and Xi Jinping-aligned modernization of national security capabilities, citing risks from foreign AI products and user data leakage. The Cyberspace Administration of China followed with version 3.0 of its AI Safety Governance Framework, endorsing regulatory sandboxes and risk-controllable mechanisms. The stance implies continued exclusion of Nvidia and AMD GPUs from the Chinese market.

The Register · Security · 2d agoAI policy

A brief history of AI executives calling for regulation

The Verge chronicles the history of AI executives, from Samuel Butler and Turing-era warnings to Altman and Musk, publicly calling for AI regulation.

The article traces recurring calls for AI regulation, from Samuel Butler's 1863 warnings and Alan Turing's 1951 lecture to Bill Joy's 2000 essay and Microsoft's 2018 facial recognition stance. Modern examples include Elon Musk's 2017 remarks to US governors, the 2023 Future of Life Institute pause letter, and Sam Altman's 2023 Senate testimony. It argues such appeals from industry leaders who profit from AI warrant skepticism.

The Verge · AI · 1d agoAI policy1

Debian developers rejected an LLM ban and left disclosure voluntary

Debian developers voted to encourage voluntary disclosure of AI assistance in contributions rather than banning or mandating labeling of LLM-generated code.

Debian's vote concluded August 28, with project secretary Kurt Roeckx announcing that the winning option encourages contributors to disclose generative AI assistance and stops there, adding no new mandatory review gates. The adopted resolution bars sending confidential material, embargoed security bugs, cryptographic keys and credentials to third-party AI services without explicit authorization, requires prior discussion for bulk automated work, and takes no position on whether model output is copyrightable. The project neither endorses nor prohibits generative AI and retains existing human review and licensing requirements.

Help Net Security · 17d agoAI policy1

Treasury’s Scott Bessent says no liability exemptions for AI labs

Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent urged Congress to reject AI labs' requested liability exemptions, arguing creator liability is the best safety guarantee.

Testifying before the House Financial Services Committee, Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent said the government should not grant frontier labs liability waivers, responding to Anthropic CEO Dario Amodei's slowdown essay. He cited Treasury's AI safety work since the release of Anthropic's Mythos model, whose cybersecurity risks prompted an April meeting, and coordination with banks and labs after the July Hugging Face cyberattack. Bessent also highlighted the Gold Eagle clearinghouse run with CISA and called for more US-built open-source models to counter China.

CyberScoop · 21h agoAI policy

Beyond Training: A Feasibility Taxonomy for Inference-Time AI Governance

A study maps twenty inference-time AI governance mechanisms, finding commercial readiness only against cooperative deployers and no adequate defense versus state-level adversaries.

The paper develops a feasibility taxonomy of twenty inference-time AI governance mechanisms across monitoring, verification, and enforcement, each rated on a four-point readiness scale against a four-vendor evidence base. Fifteen of the twenty mechanisms have commercial technical substrates in production today, though governance-grade assurance and adversarial robustness vary substantially. Stress testing shows readiness holds only against a cooperative deployer and low-to-medium-capability user: no mechanism rates adequate against a high-capability state-level deployer, and fine-tuning removes model-internal enforcement components. A second-rater reliability check on readiness ratings returned a quadratic-weighted Cohen's kappa of 0.74.

arXiv cs.CR · 7d agoAI policy